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of egypt is completely different because the arab spring has happened. we used to kind of know where -- we knew exactly where hose any mubarak stood. >> are they a mediator? an instigator? >> i don't think they know. >> they're trying to figure out their role. i'm not trying to minimize what's going on but i think traders are using this as an excuse to bid oil prices higher. we're not at a point we're seeing evidence that you can see a cut-off in oil supplies, especially for new york oil. >> that's ultimately the question. will there be a disruption? what series of events would occur to stop the flow of oil? >> suez canal, wherever it is, we're not there yet but trading it up just in case -- >> it ignites something wider. >> our own oil market in new york trades more on our economic fundamentals and tends to follow brent, not the other way around these days. brent's been going higher. >> london brent is far more influenced than by what's going on in texas. >> you bet it is. as the oil market goes, lately, the stock market has gone in the same direction. today we're very much seeing that. y
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